2006 11
After the Fon Social Router comes the Fon Downloader
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Fon is the largest WiFi community in the world. We now have around 45,000 foneros in 144 countries. We still don´t know how many Foneros have active hotspots because we have not yet finished the sofware that allows us to query routers on an hourly basis but we believe that Fon is larger than T Mobile´s in terms of network as well (T Mobile was the largest WiFi network in the world with 19,000 hotspots in USA and Europe). The key to our success is that as opposed to T Mobile Fon is user generated infrastructure. So far Fon has been promoted only at our web site but as soon as we can handle the massive sign ups, we are likely going to appear at the sites of our partners Skype and/or Google.
Fon´s infrastructure consists in foneros installing Fon´s Social Router. Presently our social router a hack. Foneros get a Linksys or a Buffalo, download our open source software flash this firmware onto their routers and they roam the world for free. Or as more and more are doing now (around 4000 last week) foneros buy our subsidized plug and play social router from us. In this case what they are buying is a Linksys or Buffalo router that we have reflashed with our firmware. In early September things will change as Fon will launch its own design Fonera, that will be manufactured by Accton. Accton will deliver the first 20,000 Foneras of a planned purchase of 1 million to be supplied by them and possibly other manufacturers, for the next 12 months. The Foneras will have many special features among them two wifi identities (SSIDs) one private and one public. The Foneras will allow foneros (members of the fon community) to socialize through their wifi signal in their neighborhood. Fon is working on a personalized home page that will allow foneros show others in their neighborhood pictures of themselves, their family, their pets, links to their favorite web sites, it will be similar to a My Space but viewable by their neighbors. So soon Foneros will be able to buy la Fonera, roam the world for free if they are Linuses foneros (Foneros must be subscribers to an ISP and pay for broadband at home before they can travel with their signal which explains why we have so many telecom partners), make money if they are Bill foneros and in both cases promote their views or their products in their neighborhood. Linuses will have something akin to a virtual bulletin board and Bills will have something akin to a billboard.
Now while we think that for most foneros a very competitively priced Fonera will be enough I believe that there´s another tremendously useful app for a large subset of Foneros that we can launch. It´s the Fon Downloader and it is now in the drawing board. The Fon Downloader will have all the features of the Fonera plus the Downloading capabilities and cost probably 20 euros/dollars more than the fonera. Here´s the plan. Fon is open source. Fon runs on linux. Many downloading programs are open source and run on Linux including Limewire, Azureus, iTunes. Steve turned out to be a Bill after all 🙁 Now think of this. We add extra RAM, flash memory cards and a USB port for external hard drives to the Fonera. Then the open source community hacks our device so users can install whatever downloading program they like in the Downloader and achieve something that all downloaders know can be very useful and that is to separate the process of downloading from the process of computing. With the Fon Downloader you would connect your iPod or any MP3 player or external hard drive to the Downloader freeing up your laptop from the whole downloading process. You will be able to manage this process from the web, from anywhere in the world. You could be in London and downloading movies at home from iTunes or uploading them in Youtube in San Francisco. User generated content is also becoming a HUGE source of downloads and uploads. Let me give you a personal example vis a vis downloading. My wife and kids love Lost, the TV series. They found out that in iTunes they could download Season 1 and 2 for $70 and somehow convinced me to pay this crazy amount and download Lost. Well, what can I say, it was a nightmare. My laptop became unusable. Not only did the download process take something like 24 hours and use around 20GB of my laptop but every time I would take my laptop to work the whole family would complain. Lost, Lost, Lost I could here them shouting at the breakfast table. I hated the whole thing. But in Spanish they say “no hay mal que por bien no venga” something like “there is always an opportunity in malfunctioning things”. And indeed there is one as this is how I had the idea for the Fon Downloader. The Fon Socila router that downloads straight in your hard drive while you do something else…with your laptop. What next? The WiFi iPod that automatically authenticates in Foneras and downloads desired songs. Something like the Music Gremlin that automatically signs up both to open networks and Fon networks. In this ways the social benefits of the Foneras will be coupled with a downloader to benefit you and to benefit all other foneros.
PS: the fon downloader should not be used to have access to content that the user has no right to use but as iTunes, Musicmatch, Yahoo Music, Music Gremlin and many others are showing the market for rights endowed music and movie downloads is becoming HUGE.
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David Oliver on June 12, 2006 ·
I think that being able to run a Skype-enabled wireless phone such as this one http://dualphone.net/Default.aspx?ID=474 directly from your Fon router without having to turn on, or be tied to, your PC would be a great idea.
Some people might even install a Fon router in their parents or grandparents home (even if they don’t have or know how to use a PC) so that they can make cheap or free phone calls. Especially if they thought that they could cover the cost of the broadband connection by operating it as a Bill hotspot.
Martín Varsavsky on June 12, 2006 ·
Libo, you are right about the link, sorry. Will take it out.
As far as I know, Bit Torrent and Azureus are both legal California based companies who are making deals with a lot of content companies. I am in touch with both CEOs. And we will try to make it work with iTunes as well. But overall I think that a Fon Downloader/uploader is very useful for user generated content. Think of videos to be sent to Google Video or Youtube, or very large files that you would send through http://www.pando.com. What I find very frustrating is to be in the middle of these things and have to take my laptop. I would rather have a web based system and manage these process from my laptop when I am not at home or even when I am at home.
jim wei huang on June 14, 2006 ·
Asus WL-700G already support BT function with IDE HDD. It’s might be a good news to develop BT fucntion.
I think that the most important problem is account menegement.If we want to develop a world wide WIFI service. How to menagement.
If we biuld to much application in the router. I think the hardware cost will be inceased.
And i suggest that realse the linux code let more people to develop more and more feature.
Martín Varsavsky on June 16, 2006 ·
You can download our software from the fon web site. It´s open source.
And Jim Wei, we are not going to add a hard drive to our box, just a USB port so people can put their own hard drives.
Regards,
Francesco on June 27, 2006 ·
The Fon Downloader is a very great idea it would be great with 128mb of ram and a minidistro running from a MMC! MMCs are now very cheap so they offer plenty of space for a very small price.
eriksson on February 4, 2007 ·
you dont need to download Lost
you can see it frome
Xavier on April 7, 2007 ·
Hello, i know a component for addig usb on the fonera Maxim MAX3421…and for example http://www.ghielectronics.com/ offers a stack for using it !!!
I would also be great to offer gpio access, as meraki mini does…
thanks
eric on March 5, 2008 ·
Interesting read. I don’t think it will catch on unless they can simplify the process a little more. On another note, you can already use your Fon to download (.torrents at least).
http://www.fonerahacks.com has guides for flashing your Fonera to an alternate Linux firmware. You can then install packages like ctorrent and begin downloading!
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Libo on June 11, 2006 ·
mmm it’s not gona work with copyrighted material. The big issue is about DRM (Digital RIght Management)
You say “iTunes with some creativity” and you link a website that explain how to install Linux on an iPod, nothining to do with installing iTunes client on linux. Basically I don’t understand how Fon Downloader can help you with the “downloading Lost” procedure. It’s not possible, unless Steve is going to give you access to their proprietary iTunes DRM sytem. On the other hand Fon Downloader can work seamless with Bittorrent, so you can download Lost with no problems at all (no problem beside the copyright).
So are you sure you want this ? I mean: it’s a nice idea to use the “downloader” concept as a drive to increase the penetration of Fon in the market, but there is a pricey tradeoff; are you sure you want The Majors, RIAA and Hollywood movies indutries hunting FON ?