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Tom’s comments after watching Religulous
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If Jesus died for everyone sins…why is there still sin?
If heaven is so great… is suicide a sin because it’s like…you are cutting the cue?
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Enric on February 7, 2009 ·
Second comment is both hilarious and brilliant
Jaime on February 7, 2009 ·
hombre, por ridícula que sea la explicación es sencilla: los católicos consideran que tu vida pertenece a D.I.O.S. y punto, de ahí lo del suicidio.
Lasse Enersen on February 7, 2009 ·
Removing guilt is one of religion’s key features
yani on February 7, 2009 ·
Sin is possible (in Christianity) because God gave the people to choose. Choosing implies the possibility of sin. This is manifested with Adam and the apple – by eating it, sin came to this world – Adam had the CHOICE to either take or leave the apple. If you control your child 100%, they cannot sin, but they don’t have a choice. As soon as you give them a choice, they may sin (lie to you etc.)
Jesus’s death means that when you believe in him that your sins will be FORGIVEN not that you will not sin anymore. Jesus taught to try to be like him – meaning the relentless pursuit of becoming like him (the way is the goal …)
suicide& heaven: suicide is a sin because in Christianity, you do not have the RIGHT to take lives, including yours. It does not have anything to do with heaven.
@ yomismito
Faith (whatever religion) is not more irrational than people are. Today in 21st century, people in the industrialized world think that are all smart and rational. People seem more rational, when they BELIEVE to have control of their surroundings – e.g. no war, fridge (you don’t worry about food tomorrow), stable economy. The reality is that the world is in many ways much more fragile and that people are much more dependent on the nature and surroundings than they believe to be. So if things change – and you can see in this economic mess people behaving often very irrationally – people will quickly change. People have more access to knowledge, doesn’t mean they are wiser. Almost every person that have had near death experience – including the smart rational people – in some way or the other becomes religious…
George on February 8, 2009 ·
I agree sin is a very tricky concept.
But quite frankly Tom should think a bit more about the concept of suicide. The comment is really not that “brilliant”. He can do a lot better than that! He’s obviously old enough (and clever enough indeed) to give this things some sort of consideration, but yet too young to get proper answers. Christianity -and most religions for this matter- condemn suicide not because it’s like “cutting the cue” but simply because life is too precious a gift from God to just end it on your own. “He” sort of has the last word. It might seem quite unfair but think again: God is a human created concept and his precepts are nothing but the result of our own lucubrations. Suicide is against our own nature and those who decide to end their precious lives in this terrible way are most certainly under an enormous amount of stress and despair. In my opinion they should not be considered sinners, but victims of their own fears and their inability of dealing with them.
Lev on February 9, 2009 ·
Regardless of whether religion is ridiculous or not, it is a major part of the history of humanity, and as such an elementary understanding of the tenants of world religions should be part of any person’s general knowledge, like knowing the different the names of the countries on the map or the languages spoken in each.
Not knowing what original sin is just because you have a secular educations doesn’t make you clever, it just means you’re culturally limited.
And the irony in that fact that everyone wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die is age old.
PabloS on February 18, 2009 ·
take good care of him.. he’s brilliant.
Cheers.
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yomismito on February 7, 2009 ·
People are religious because they have faith, and faith implies irrationality, so any rational approach to religion is wrong. Smart people who don’t believe in God should know this…