Last night I had the pleasure to have Danish serial entrepreneur Nikolaj Nyholm over for dinner with 3 of my four kids. Nikolaj and I share many things, we are active dads (Nikolaj has 3 children ages 7 to 1), we have both started WiFi companies along a similar model, he started Organic Networks and I started Fon, and we are now both experimenting with novel uses of photography on the internet, in his case Polar Rose and in mine Twitxr. During dinner we spoke about different subjects, some had little to do with the internet and were centered more around my children and these included the pros and cons of the highly unusual British High School system that my children attend (this matter deserves another post) and others related to the internet and specificially Polar Rose.

Polar Rose has 21 employees focused on one complex subject and that is to build an intelligent competitor to Google Image searches. Now this is what is going on at Polar Rose now. Let´s take my son Tom Varsavsky as an example. These are the results of googling Tom Varsavsky´s images. As you can see results are all over the place. There are pictures of my baby Son Leo instead of him, pictures of Esther Dyson instead of him, and many pictures of me instead of him. Now Polar Rose only has only two pictures of Tom Varsavsky as its results. But they are indeed pictures of Tom. Now what Polar Rose is aiming at doing is to develop an image crawling technology that can actually crawl the net for pictures and recognize without human intervention the faces of people. During our brainstorming I gave Nikolaj sugestions that I thought would help him advance his venture. One was to work with us at Twitxr since at Twitxr many people are taking pictures of people and we could cross link with Polar Rose and help Polar Rose increase its membership of recognized individuals from its current 189.000. But Twitxr is nothing compared to the number of people that are being tagged at Facebook every day. Not a week goes by with me getting a message that says, such and such a person tagged a picture of you. I wonder if Facebook would be open to allow these information be public provided that Facebookers authorize it. And then there´s the opportunity to crawl flickr. When I went to Polar Rose for example and tried to find my friend Jack Hidary he was not tagged yet. But Flickr had public pictures of him. As Nikolaj remarked what is interesting about Polar Rose is that its technology can find the right person in group pictures.

My conclusion after talking to Nikolaj is that while Polar Rose still has way to go and it is in a very early stage what they are trying to do has a market because as gossip magazines show people are extremely attracted to pictures of people, for all sorts of reasons, and Google Images is both number one and still a very mediocre product (with all respect to Google who are my investors at Fon).

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homo viator on June 19, 2008  · 

Hola Martin,
for me 123people.com works best. The site does not just feature accurate pics of myself, but also gives an overview of other traces that I leave on the net (my Youtube videos, blog posts, press releases, etc.) I checked for Tom and would get some pics of him, but also pics of you and other “Toms”. The search results however also included the link to the Polar Rose results for “Tom Varsavsky”.
Have a look at it, it’s quite a relevent site I think.
While we are at it, let me recommend you another site that I recently stumbled upon: http://www.6billionothers.org. It is a beautiful idea and website. No business concept behind it, more a scientific or artistic approach.
Hope you are well, saludos desde Berlin!
Niko

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homo viator on June 19, 2008  · 

P.s.
Check out the results for the “martin varsavsky” search string on 123people.com. The results are quite accurate: more than 40 pics of you, various email adresses (okey, not your fon email), your social network profiles, weblinks, a tag cloud, etc.
Saludos, Niko

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eddy on June 19, 2008  · 

Hello Martin,

Do you know tinEye.com by Idée Inc.? Still in private beta but seems promising by their take on image search.
tinEye + polarrose + twitxr = ?

Also very interesting is their firefox extension show cased in the presention video.

Eddy

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carlos on June 19, 2008  · 

#2, the image search for tom varsavsky es bad: http://www.123people.com/s/tom+varsavsky

martin must be figures as a more mainstream/fat tail charachter. i guess polar rose wants to enable the long tail!

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Martin Varsavsky on June 19, 2008  · 

Homo Viator,

I just checked 123people.com and indeed it is a great site, thanks!

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Martin Varsavsky on June 19, 2008  · 

I also liked 6billionothers!

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Elliott on June 20, 2008  · 

Put ” ” marks around a name, eg, “Tom Varsavsky” on Google images & u will narrow results considerably

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homo viator on June 20, 2008  · 

Glad you liked them! Hope to see you guys again soon. Niko

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