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Who is responsible for 9 11?
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I am still trying to understand what made over one third of my Spanish readers believe that the CIA and not Al Qaida was responsible for the 9 11 attacks. As you can see in this poll 38% of my Spanish readers believe that was the case. Another 7 percent believed that it was the Mosad who was responsible for the attack. Overall less than half of my Spanish readers believed that Al Qaida was responsible for 9 11. I was shocked as to me there is really no doubt as to who carried the 9 11 attacks and it was clearly Al Qaida led by Osama Bin Laden. But trying to find an explanation for such unusual views coming from highly educated, sophisticated readers and commentators in my Spanish blog I think I can venture a theory. What I think has happened here is that because the Bush Aministration lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction and so badly mismanaged the invasion of Iraq many Spanish have basically lost trust in American Foreign Policy to the point that they find it easier to believe that the CIA would inflict so much damage on the American People so the Bush administration could invade Irak. Personally while I think there´s no ground to believe that the CIA itself attacked the WTC and the Pentagon I do believe that the CIA and other American agencies were partly responsible for arming and training the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden against the Russians. I also think that the general going alone policy of the Bush administration has created enormous mistrust in anything that the American government says.
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censor on August 24, 2007 ·
Martin:
I really wonder if you are naive or a tool of unforeseen interest. The question of 911 responsibility has always been Cui bono?
http://antiwar.com/israeli-files.php
But you still pretending “understand” … http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/lieofthecentury.html
In fact a couple of days ago one of your readers -wanunu- challenge your neutrality, liberalism and high moral stand by asking you to come clean with Zionism and you completely ignored. I understand you can not bite the hand that feed you, but please do not insult other people intelligence.
So far that you avoid the Zionist question that 38% is going to growth, not doubt about it. So please come clean.
Have you read The Clean Break? As you continue to be perplex check out this http://tinyurl.com/2xozbv and let us know Cui bono?
in.tuyo on August 24, 2007 ·
Hi. I cannot speak for that 30% of your audience, but I can speak for myself. Having been born and partly raised in a country where we had our very own 9/11, and knowing that the US government and the CIA were very much involved (by now revealed in public documents), the suspicion only made sense. Also, any highly educated human being with notions of history will tell you that a good way to find out who might be responsible for a given event is to look for who most benefits from it. And the segment of society that benefits the most from NYC 9/11 is the military, mainly the US military but the whole worldwide military machine. In a post cold war world, there is an important amount of business going on that has to do with the need for security, so there needs to some kind of menace, internal or external, in order to justify all the money spent on weaponry, espionage and so on.
Gilani on August 24, 2007 ·
Who is responsible for 9 11 Attack, it maybe hidden always because it may be the part of international game – led by some selfish people who only do this type of distructive activities for their own interests. beleave you me the is no relation of these people with any religion because all relagions weather it is hinduisam, Islam, Cristianity or any one else are besically contaions only one lesson of LOVE, PEACE and TOLARANCE. the basics of every religion and beside the differntiations of religions we all are human beings the creation of Almighty the Lord of Lords – wo we all are one. now who is behind 9 11. weather it is Al qaida or CIA it self i won’t say anything but just one thing those who have done this are not even comes in the catagory of human beings. but i would specially say one thing that on only the basis on speculation america should suppose to attack on innocent citizens of Afghanistan and Iraq. this is much more time big terorisam then what have done in 9 11. as a nutural person i thinks killing and threating is not a solution to a problem it actually raise more problems more dangrous then the previous events.because its not the Muslim , Cristion or Hundu who is becoming terorist its the human being who is becoming terorist and WHY becoming terorist – simply when u take off the basic human rights of leaving, secourity, homeland or tolarance from some one it leads toward internal distruction as a result the human beings become aggressive to get his/her right. this is the thing we must realise , we must accept and we must spread. so America and all others whose name is coming in this war of terror must re think about their foregion and human policies i would say. to conclude who is behind 9 11. no one only the intrests, violations of rights,unjustiseness, unequality, iliteracy,non-tolative environment and finaly the lack of love we people have……. think and think this question have no worth now …who is behind…. lets break all the walls and save the huminity the eliminante and stoped the chances of this type of happenings again… May Allah give us positive cognative approach so we can think pro-active instead of reactive attitude…….
E Brodsky on August 24, 2007 ·
Martin,
People in Spain were flirting with CIA-Mossad theories even as the WTC was actually collapsing (I’ve been there myself and saw it with my own tearful eyes). Spain is much more anti-American and anti-semitic than you normally acknowledge in your blog – which I read regularly. Unfortunately, the Bush administration is doing nothing but fuel this feeling – but that’s another story.
DomPierre on August 25, 2007 ·
The reason for the skepticism of some people is that things don’t add up.
For instance, the third tower collapsed on its own.
The Bin Ladens were flown out of the US after the attacks before Osama Bin Laden was claiming credit for the attacks.
You can find more reasons just doing a search on the internet.
But once you study it on your own without any undue influence based on government or mainstream media claims, then people are more skeptical.
Also, as people have found out during the Bush Administration’s time, anything they say cannot be trusted.
I guess the question is, are you believing everything you’re told on faith?
Gilles Amsallem on August 25, 2007 ·
No one can ignore that Israel, CIA and USA in general are responsible of all.
In lot of media it is said that Al Quaida is an invention of Americans.
That Jews are the news Nazi of Middle East,
That Aznar and Blair were responsible of terrorism attacks in London and Madrid…. in European public opinion Al Quaida is either innocent or in legitimate defence.
In principle all debates are good, but I’m terrified by such hypothesis? Either we have no prove (for 9/11 I think we have enough evidence of responsibility of Bin Laden) and we continue to consider that it could be the CIA, or we have prove and we (occident) are responsable of what Al Quaida does to US and allied.
nos_hemos_vuelto_locos? on August 25, 2007 ·
A quick look at the comments, Martin, reveals that, with the notable exception of Mr. Brodsky, you have an even higher percentage of insane English-speaking readers as you do of Spanish ones. Maybe the Spaniards are not that bad after all, huh? 🙂
What is the Zionist question, Martin? I am curious if being Jewish or supporting the right of Israel to exist invalidates your opinion in the eyes of Mr. Censor. And what is that mysterious “hand that feeds you”? hahaha
One last thing for the conspiracy theorists. Repeat with me: “do not believe everything you read on the Internet”. These days, any wacko with a computer and a phone line in Tora Bora can put up a website saying their mother planned the 9/11 attacks.
Marcelo Levit on August 26, 2007 ·
Maybe your readers are not highly educated …..
Martin Varsavsky on August 26, 2007 ·
Yes nos hemos vuelto locos,
I think I am pretty confused by my English readers…
DomPierre on August 27, 2007 ·
Even Robert Fisk penned something about this.
Spare Me The ‘Ravers’, But Even I Question The ‘Truth’ About 9/11.
DomPierre on August 27, 2007 ·
Btw, I admit I was disappointed that you didn’t mention anything about the Americas Cup since it was held in Valencia this year.
Herb on August 31, 2007 ·
It would be interesting to see if Spaniards beliefs were different about 9/11 before the invasion of Iraq a year and a half later. Bush is too quick to lie, and, apparently, your readers are too quick to believe anything anti-American.
triverio on September 2, 2007 ·
There is a very interesting movie called:
“911 In Plane Sight”
Naim on September 5, 2007 ·
American Zeitgeist is a feature length documentary by filmmaker Rob McGann that offers an historical look at the War on Terrorism from 1979 through 2006. The narrative of American Zeitgeist is woven out of more than 40 in-depth interviews with leading experts on terrorism, U.S. foreign policy, Islam and Middle Eastern studies.
I recommend watching it, as you and I trust Web 2.0 and the fact that what the majority thinks is more likely to be true. Votes at close to 5 stars and even a 9.1/10 rating on IMDB.com, It special !
Hans gruber on September 13, 2007 ·
HOw many of you actually know anything about aviation? Think of all the combustible materials onboard the plane! The commercial aircraft can descend at 4000ft per minute with speed brakes from cruising altitude.
Why are all these conspiracy theory fools acting like this was the first time an aircraft was highjacked and crashed. A majority of the aircraft high jackings in history were done by people of middle eastern or asian origin. Why do so many people not believe what they saw with there own 2 eyes.
Also the government are not going to publicise sensitive information on national security.
When the plane hit the towers you could see the steel struts glowing red and melting.
Most of these conspiracy theorists are not even qualifed to judge such stuff. Don’t waste you’re mind power on these time wasting energy sucking individuals.
Jeff Partin on October 7, 2007 ·
One could argue that the CIA were inadvertently the cause of the 911 attacks…as Martin noted in his opening comments…the US via the CIA provided weapons to the Afghan Mujahedein (spelling?) to harass the Soviets…the initial budget was around $5m USD annually for bolt action rifles and ammunition, ultimately it grew to well over a billion to supply shoulder fired missle and mules to transport them…the Saudis matched our $$$ contributions 2-1and many Saudi Nationals (Osama Bin Ladin among them) answered the call to defeat the Soviet Invaders, not unlike Americans fighting the fascists along side Spainards.
These Mujahadien ultimately became the Taliban created and supported by the Pakastani ISI or secret service in collaboration with the CIA. When the Soviets left Afghanistan the power vacuum was filled by the Taliban. This story is very interestingly told in the book CHARLIE WILSON’S WAR by George Crille, now deceased.
Had the US maintained an active interest in helping Afghanistan develop and recover from the Soviet Invasion, it may not have become a haven for Bin Ladin. Whose hatred of the west started when US Troops remained based on Saudi soil after the first Gulf War.
There are a number of good books that offer historical insight/context into the roots of the current conflict(s), mindset of the middle east and current US Administration. I recommend ALL THE SHAHS MEN, TALIBAN, FIASCO, THE ONE PERCENT DOCTRINE, VEIL and LEGACY OF ASHES.
ROB on December 9, 2007 ·
Can anyone prove to me in a logical way that a plane flew into the Pentagon. You see,this is where they shot themselves in the foot. I will ask you a question.Why on earth should it be the case that the system in place that controls the western world,is not infact the most evil ideology currently known to man.Is it possible that our governments are the bad guys. NO NEVER I hear you all shout.
nos_hemos_vuelto_locos? on December 10, 2007 ·
Can anyone prove to me that Ossama Bin Laden has NOT been learning English with some audiotapes in order to infiltrate MV’s blog and is now in fact posting under the pseudonym “ROB”?
George A Nader on March 8, 2009 ·
How can anyone believe what the USA gov.tell yu-what commission,like JFK ASSASSINATION ONE MAJIC BULLET-or
WMD in Iraq or blind support for israel-CIA ASSASSINATIONS WORLD WIDE-LIES LIES LIES………………………………………..
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simmer on August 24, 2007 ·
The reasons your students don’t believe Bin Laden was behind 9/11 are many. Here are 40 possible reasons:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646
Most people haven’t read the 9/11 Commission Report or the FEMA or NIST studies of the collapses. Most people don’t realize how weak the government’s case really is. The FBI publicly admitted it has “no hard evidence” to connect Bin Laden to 9/11 (you can google that phrase if you don’t believe me). Most of the story of Bin Laden’s involvement as told in the Report is based on Detainee Interrogation Reports. The commissioners admit on page 146 they never met the alleged al Qaeda detainees, nor were they allowed to submit questions to them, nor were they allowed to question the alleged intelligence agents who allegedly interrogated the alleged detainees. The most important details of the case are based on the alleged hearsay of tortured detainees.