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		<title>By: Martín Alejandro Carmona Selva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martín Alejandro Carmona Selva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One must be very naïve to believe that AlQaeda was behind the 9/11 attacks.

For sure more than 3000 people died, but  this was the work of the REAL AXIS OF EVIL -Illuminatti and Co.-

I&#039;m a too much too crazy and paranoid? Well, perhaps, but after studing the subject as much as I did, I still don&#039;t get most of the things we&#039;re told about this.

Do yourselves a favor and watch &quot;&lt;b&gt;The Great Illusion&lt;/b&gt;&quot; and then we&#039;ll talk again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One must be very naïve to believe that AlQaeda was behind the 9/11 attacks.</p>
<p>For sure more than 3000 people died, but  this was the work of the REAL AXIS OF EVIL -Illuminatti and Co.-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a too much too crazy and paranoid? Well, perhaps, but after studing the subject as much as I did, I still don&#8217;t get most of the things we&#8217;re told about this.</p>
<p>Do yourselves a favor and watch &#8220;<b>The Great Illusion</b>&#8221; and then we&#8217;ll talk again.</p>
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		<title>By: Desider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Martin, you have a tough time with this audience, eh?
First, WTC &#039;93 was not Al Qaeda. 
The USS Cole bombing killed 17 and injured 39. Worth changing foreign policy over?
(The Oklahoma City bombing killing 168 carried out by white US radicals didn&#039;t seem
to promote a crackdown on white US radicals)

The USS Cole bombing would have prompted a bigger response if it hadn&#039;t come
in the middle of an election cycle - Clinton held off as courtesy to not politicize it
less than a month before the election. Hard to imagine Bush&#039;s team acting as responsibly.

Attacking Afghanistan over Al Qaeda seems warranted. Bogging ourselves down there
for the next 8 years after mission was accomplished seems insane. Even with Iraq I&#039;m
slightly forgiving - sometimes in pool when shots are too few, you just have to break
up the field, lovingly called &quot;the buckshot&quot;, whether right or wrong. Doing that without
having any plans in place for containment is again insane. Continuing to create dragons
out of mosquitoes, especially by placing ourselves right in front of those mosquitoes,
is again insane. We neutralized Qaddafi. We neutralized Milosevic. We promoted the
Orange Revolution. We know there are less self-defeating ways to pursue tough policy
goals, but we chose to ignore these and go in for jingoist immature cowboy policy out
of some strange insecurity. Don Quixote may have tilted at windmills, but at least he
didn&#039;t build the windmills himself.

Al Qaeda/Osama bin Laden was and is a tiny problem. A problem worth dealing with,
but still a tiny problem. Pulling out a bazooka to kill a mosquito will cause a lot of other
problems not very much related to the mosquito. More flyswatters please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Martin, you have a tough time with this audience, eh?<br />
First, WTC &#8217;93 was not Al Qaeda.<br />
The USS Cole bombing killed 17 and injured 39. Worth changing foreign policy over?<br />
(The Oklahoma City bombing killing 168 carried out by white US radicals didn&#8217;t seem<br />
to promote a crackdown on white US radicals)</p>
<p>The USS Cole bombing would have prompted a bigger response if it hadn&#8217;t come<br />
in the middle of an election cycle &#8211; Clinton held off as courtesy to not politicize it<br />
less than a month before the election. Hard to imagine Bush&#8217;s team acting as responsibly.</p>
<p>Attacking Afghanistan over Al Qaeda seems warranted. Bogging ourselves down there<br />
for the next 8 years after mission was accomplished seems insane. Even with Iraq I&#8217;m<br />
slightly forgiving &#8211; sometimes in pool when shots are too few, you just have to break<br />
up the field, lovingly called &#8220;the buckshot&#8221;, whether right or wrong. Doing that without<br />
having any plans in place for containment is again insane. Continuing to create dragons<br />
out of mosquitoes, especially by placing ourselves right in front of those mosquitoes,<br />
is again insane. We neutralized Qaddafi. We neutralized Milosevic. We promoted the<br />
Orange Revolution. We know there are less self-defeating ways to pursue tough policy<br />
goals, but we chose to ignore these and go in for jingoist immature cowboy policy out<br />
of some strange insecurity. Don Quixote may have tilted at windmills, but at least he<br />
didn&#8217;t build the windmills himself.</p>
<p>Al Qaeda/Osama bin Laden was and is a tiny problem. A problem worth dealing with,<br />
but still a tiny problem. Pulling out a bazooka to kill a mosquito will cause a lot of other<br />
problems not very much related to the mosquito. More flyswatters please.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want to wake up American&#039;s to the truth of 9/11?  Here&#039;s how......

http://blandyland.com/?p=388

Make it go viral!  Thanks!

Daniel Bland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to wake up American&#8217;s to the truth of 9/11?  Here&#8217;s how&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blandyland.com/?p=388" rel="nofollow">http://blandyland.com/?p=388</a></p>
<p>Make it go viral!  Thanks!</p>
<p>Daniel Bland</p>
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		<title>By: antoin O Lachtnain</title>
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		<dc:creator>antoin O Lachtnain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe 9/11 and the military action that followed it represented the end of an era, rather than the beginning of one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe 9/11 and the military action that followed it represented the end of an era, rather than the beginning of one?</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin:
Without getting into the ethics &amp; morality issues being bandied about above, it is important to realize that these were not &quot;freak&quot; isolated events, but part of a pattern of terrorism that goes back a couple of decades.  It is just so easy for individuals to travel around the world. One can not only look at the attacks that were successful [for the terrorists] as an indication of how widespread terrorism is in the world.  Just because the USA has not experienced an attack on the level of 9/11 doesn&#039;t mean that there haven&#039;t been a number of failed attempts in the US and Europe that have been prevented by the enormous amount of resources utilized to prevent one.  There have been numerous arrests and convictions that have been publicized  and, I am sure, more that haven&#039;t been made public as well as many more just deterred by the security systems put in place since 9/11.  One cannot enter any government building without being on video and having your belongings screened as at the airport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin:<br />
Without getting into the ethics &amp; morality issues being bandied about above, it is important to realize that these were not &#8220;freak&#8221; isolated events, but part of a pattern of terrorism that goes back a couple of decades.  It is just so easy for individuals to travel around the world. One can not only look at the attacks that were successful [for the terrorists] as an indication of how widespread terrorism is in the world.  Just because the USA has not experienced an attack on the level of 9/11 doesn&#8217;t mean that there haven&#8217;t been a number of failed attempts in the US and Europe that have been prevented by the enormous amount of resources utilized to prevent one.  There have been numerous arrests and convictions that have been publicized  and, I am sure, more that haven&#8217;t been made public as well as many more just deterred by the security systems put in place since 9/11.  One cannot enter any government building without being on video and having your belongings screened as at the airport.</p>
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		<title>By: Goup'</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goup'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please work on the fonera and other IT stuff and forget the rest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please work on the fonera and other IT stuff and forget the rest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ruxpert</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruxpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Invisible History: Afghanistan&#039;s Untold Story


video:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/video.php?progid=202346
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&amp;products_id=284378-1

Paul Fitzgerald and Elizabeth Gould talked about their book Invisible 
History: Afghanistan&#039;s Untold Story (City Lights Publishers; January 1, 
2009) with Back Pages Books store owner Alex Green, and they responded to 
audience members&#039; question. Their history of Afghanistan includes their own 
first-hand accounts of the U.S. government&#039;s involvement there in the late 
1970s and 1980s. Paul Fitzgerald and Elizabeth Gould, a husband and wife 
team, first began reporting on Afghanistan for CBS News in 1981 and have 
also covered Afghanistan for &quot;Nightline&quot; and the &quot;MacNeil/Lehrer News Hour.&quot; 
They are also the producers of the PBS documentary Afghanistan: Between 
Three Worlds.

Invisible History

ID: 284378-1 _ Forum
02/11/2009 - 53 minutes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Invisible History: Afghanistan&#8217;s Untold Story</p>
<p>video:<br />
<a href="http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/video.php?progid=202346" rel="nofollow">http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/video.php?progid=202346</a><br />
<a href="http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&#038;products_id=284378-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&#038;products_id=284378-1</a></p>
<p>Paul Fitzgerald and Elizabeth Gould talked about their book Invisible<br />
History: Afghanistan&#8217;s Untold Story (City Lights Publishers; January 1,<br />
2009) with Back Pages Books store owner Alex Green, and they responded to<br />
audience members&#8217; question. Their history of Afghanistan includes their own<br />
first-hand accounts of the U.S. government&#8217;s involvement there in the late<br />
1970s and 1980s. Paul Fitzgerald and Elizabeth Gould, a husband and wife<br />
team, first began reporting on Afghanistan for CBS News in 1981 and have<br />
also covered Afghanistan for &#8220;Nightline&#8221; and the &#8220;MacNeil/Lehrer News Hour.&#8221;<br />
They are also the producers of the PBS documentary Afghanistan: Between<br />
Three Worlds.</p>
<p>Invisible History</p>
<p>ID: 284378-1 _ Forum<br />
02/11/2009 &#8211; 53 minutes</p>
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		<title>By: ruxpert</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruxpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War Is Peace. Ignorance Is Strength
 
By John Pilger
 
Barack Obama, winner of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, is planning another war to add to his impressive record. In Afghanistan, his agents routinely extinguish wedding parties, farmers and construction workers with weapons such as the innovative Hellfire missile, which sucks the air out of your lungs. 
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23737.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War Is Peace. Ignorance Is Strength</p>
<p>By John Pilger</p>
<p>Barack Obama, winner of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, is planning another war to add to his impressive record. In Afghanistan, his agents routinely extinguish wedding parties, farmers and construction workers with weapons such as the innovative Hellfire missile, which sucks the air out of your lungs.<br />
<a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23737.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23737.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: metoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>metoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Freedom fighters in the sense that they want the occupation of their country to end. &quot;

Sorry, Martin, but you&#039;re wrong again. If they really wanted the occupation to end, they could have succeeded like 3 or 4 years ago, simply by not blowing people. Don&#039;t have the slightest doubt about this. The reason why the occupation is still ongoing is because safety from the bastards is needed. Plus, I object to your equation &quot;Freedom fighters&quot; = &quot;Guys who want an occupation to end&quot;, because those fighters may want to substitute the situation for a lack of freedom. I think it&#039;s undisputable that a/ those guys are not fighting for people to be freer, in the western sense, b/ people in Iraq and Afghanistan are freer than anyone else in the middle east --excl Israel--. They&#039;re less safe, and that&#039;s a concern. But what they are not is less free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Freedom fighters in the sense that they want the occupation of their country to end. &#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, Martin, but you&#8217;re wrong again. If they really wanted the occupation to end, they could have succeeded like 3 or 4 years ago, simply by not blowing people. Don&#8217;t have the slightest doubt about this. The reason why the occupation is still ongoing is because safety from the bastards is needed. Plus, I object to your equation &#8220;Freedom fighters&#8221; = &#8220;Guys who want an occupation to end&#8221;, because those fighters may want to substitute the situation for a lack of freedom. I think it&#8217;s undisputable that a/ those guys are not fighting for people to be freer, in the western sense, b/ people in Iraq and Afghanistan are freer than anyone else in the middle east &#8211;excl Israel&#8211;. They&#8217;re less safe, and that&#8217;s a concern. But what they are not is less free.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Varsavsky: What If 9-11 Was A Freak Event? &#8211; Uniqs.info &#124; Headline News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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