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	<title>Comments on: UK to forbid Open WiFi &#8211; FON can help</title>
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		<title>By: steven</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/uk-to-forbid-open-wifi-fon-can-help.html#comment-264790</link>
		<dc:creator>steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>? they keep as much logs as FON does...or haven&#039;t you seen your FON travel log ???

The following was taken from ConnectionVPN&#039;s Terms of Service:
Connection Data Privacy
We DO NOT monitor, record or store logs for any connection activity,&lt;b&gt; except for the following :&lt;/b&gt;
- Time, date and duration of &lt;b&gt;your&lt;/b&gt; VPN connection
- Bandwidth used during the connection

correlating attacks on google servers and your vpn connection time/date/duration .... we have a winner.... busted! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>? they keep as much logs as FON does&#8230;or haven&#8217;t you seen your FON travel log ???</p>
<p>The following was taken from ConnectionVPN&#8217;s Terms of Service:<br />
Connection Data Privacy<br />
We DO NOT monitor, record or store logs for any connection activity,<b> except for the following :</b><br />
- Time, date and duration of <b>your</b> VPN connection<br />
- Bandwidth used during the connection</p>
<p>correlating attacks on google servers and your vpn connection time/date/duration &#8230;. we have a winner&#8230;. busted! <img src='http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/uk-to-forbid-open-wifi-fon-can-help.html#comment-264788</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@steven well, their terms of service say they don&#039;t keep those logs, contrarily to what Martin just stated about Fon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@steven well, their terms of service say they don&#8217;t keep those logs, contrarily to what Martin just stated about Fon.</p>
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		<title>By: steven</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/uk-to-forbid-open-wifi-fon-can-help.html#comment-264785</link>
		<dc:creator>steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and you think connectionvpn.com is not logging on their server usage?
you are making it even more easy for them...they just have to knock on connectionvpn&#039;s doors instead of each fonspot user&#039;s isp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and you think connectionvpn.com is not logging on their server usage?<br />
you are making it even more easy for them&#8230;they just have to knock on connectionvpn&#8217;s doors instead of each fonspot user&#8217;s isp</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/uk-to-forbid-open-wifi-fon-can-help.html#comment-264784</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you&#039;re proposing only &quot;protects&quot; the owners of the hotspots, but not the users.
Here in France where we have the 3-strikes law, more and more people turn to solutions like connecting via a VPN in a country that hasn&#039;t yet passed these kind of laws.
For instance I use https://connectionvpn.com/ to connect to Luxembourg or the US (which lets me use Hulu and Pandora too ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#8217;re proposing only &#8220;protects&#8221; the owners of the hotspots, but not the users.<br />
Here in France where we have the 3-strikes law, more and more people turn to solutions like connecting via a VPN in a country that hasn&#8217;t yet passed these kind of laws.<br />
For instance I use <a href="https://connectionvpn.com/" rel="nofollow">https://connectionvpn.com/</a> to connect to Luxembourg or the US (which lets me use Hulu and Pandora too <img src='http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: steven</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/uk-to-forbid-open-wifi-fon-can-help.html#comment-264781</link>
		<dc:creator>steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AustinTX that&#039;s correct in the UK FON has not enabled &quot;FON Ads&quot; so people can not use the wifi for 10 minutes with a fake account. They have pay with their VISA before getting access... Be it as an &quot;alien&quot; 3 euro&#039;s or be it as a linus/bill by buying a fonera+ for 40+ euro&#039;s (GBP37.95)

In Germany/Italy they even have to buy at least 30 minutes of access by SMS .... to create a validated alien profile so they can use the 10 minutes a week of free fon access using FON Ads...

In other countries it&#039;s not so difficult to obtain free unauthorized wifi.
McDonalds just asks you to push &quot;I Agree&quot;-button after reading you&#039;ll be good...

as far as I can tell DNS tunnelling is still possible on any hotspot to get free unauthenticated wifi but it&#039;s slow ...
But in the UK FONspot keepers are secured due to the vpn tunnel.... this feature has not been implemented on fonera 2.0n or other country fonspots... not even in France where the Hadopi &quot;3 strikes&quot; law now exists...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AustinTX that&#8217;s correct in the UK FON has not enabled &#8220;FON Ads&#8221; so people can not use the wifi for 10 minutes with a fake account. They have pay with their VISA before getting access&#8230; Be it as an &#8220;alien&#8221; 3 euro&#8217;s or be it as a linus/bill by buying a fonera+ for 40+ euro&#8217;s (GBP37.95)</p>
<p>In Germany/Italy they even have to buy at least 30 minutes of access by SMS &#8230;. to create a validated alien profile so they can use the 10 minutes a week of free fon access using FON Ads&#8230;</p>
<p>In other countries it&#8217;s not so difficult to obtain free unauthorized wifi.<br />
McDonalds just asks you to push &#8220;I Agree&#8221;-button after reading you&#8217;ll be good&#8230;</p>
<p>as far as I can tell DNS tunnelling is still possible on any hotspot to get free unauthenticated wifi but it&#8217;s slow &#8230;<br />
But in the UK FONspot keepers are secured due to the vpn tunnel&#8230;. this feature has not been implemented on fonera 2.0n or other country fonspots&#8230; not even in France where the Hadopi &#8220;3 strikes&#8221; law now exists&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Luis FON</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/uk-to-forbid-open-wifi-fon-can-help.html#comment-264780</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis FON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brad In our US shop we currently sell just that one router: the Fonera 2.0n. In the UK the Fonera+ is available for purchase (for just £29.95) as Martin mentioned on his post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brad In our US shop we currently sell just that one router: the Fonera 2.0n. In the UK the Fonera+ is available for purchase (for just £29.95) as Martin mentioned on his post.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/uk-to-forbid-open-wifi-fon-can-help.html#comment-264776</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No comprende ... your FON shop only sells one product ... and it&#039;s $99.00 USD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No comprende &#8230; your FON shop only sells one product &#8230; and it&#8217;s $99.00 USD</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/uk-to-forbid-open-wifi-fon-can-help.html#comment-264775</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Martin Varsavsky strikes again&#8230;...&lt;/strong&gt;

&#8220;We know their identity confirmed by payment details such as credit card or phone number. We comply with all requirements of the UK Telco Regulation and collaborate with authorities if requested to identify copyright infringement cases. Just like...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Martin Varsavsky strikes again&#8230;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;We know their identity confirmed by payment details such as credit card or phone number. We comply with all requirements of the UK Telco Regulation and collaborate with authorities if requested to identify copyright infringement cases. Just like&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/uk-to-forbid-open-wifi-fon-can-help.html#comment-264771</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What will you do if the government ask for our identity? What is exactly considered ilegal??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will you do if the government ask for our identity? What is exactly considered ilegal??</p>
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		<title>By: MaximTr</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/uk-to-forbid-open-wifi-fon-can-help.html#comment-264770</link>
		<dc:creator>MaximTr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems many governments have long wanted to tame the Internet and a provider</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems many governments have long wanted to tame the Internet and a provider</p>
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