Link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go

Its actually one of the most viewed videos on youtube…
Hope that ull have a good laugh.

I am sorry but even those who are truly American do not tend to be well off. This to me means that lack of choice may have as much to play in this equation as patriotism if not more.

Martin,

I agree with you on both of these points. From an American standpoint, this has something to do with your previous post on lending and debt in the US.

On the American side, Western Europe has a much stronger middle class, which I think is a sign of a prosperous nation. The greatest problems in a country are created when the gap between the lower and upper class is great and there is little class mobility.

Regarding suicide bombings, this happens because of the vast difference in technology and resources between the two parties at war.

It has more to do with lack of choice than virgins or citizenship. Thanks for clarifying.

Matin

Look at the big picture. Go back hundreds or thousands of years. Life is much better now than it was then. If you only listen to the media you would think the world is going to implode with carnage soon. However, look at the countries that were previously held back by the Cold War and communism. Eastern Europe, parts of India, and parts of China have improved greatly over the last 15 years.

Part of the problems in the Middle East has been magnified by the end of the Cold War. Twenty years ago, if the US wanted to enter Iraq, the USSR would have been on the other side trying to stop them or fight against them. Additionally, many of the weapons used by the insurgents are left over weapons from the Cold War.

If you look at individual examples, things always can look distorted. If you look at the big picture over hundreds of year, we are better off now on average and will continue to improve.

Matin

It was about suicide bombers in Gaza. More especifically about children suicide bombers http://www.canalhistoria.com/es/012ficha_programa.php?housenumber=ID102BL1 by the name ( Goldstein) I saw at the end of the documentary I think the team was from Israel.

The conclusion I understood is that it is unstopable. I never saw such a tragedy. Horrible. From both sides. If anyone of you see this documentary and still find a solution in a few lines o even apges or even books than I didn’t understand.

Children being happy and desiring to die is not something that hapen only because someone ask them to do it.
It’s true that people do horrible things when in war. It’s true that they realize it when they find peace and feel ashame of it. But here milions of people have seen this documentary. No one can say we didn’t know. I don’t blame any side of the conflict, it would be too easy.

I just blame all of us away from that conflict. Not the one involved in it. What I’m afraid of, is from our tolerance to this horror. We might be the next one and we won’t recognize it. I really have been shoked of what a system can come out of control. I tell it for both sides. Neither Israelies neither Palestinians are aware of what they have build.

I won’t talk about a systemic aproach and blalblabla. These two sides cannot reach an agreement. That’s impossible.
Martin, I know you’re positive, open, fair, good willing, but please have alook to this documentary and maybe you will stand back from simplistic aproach. At least now I will. I say it again: both sides.

Excuse me if it’s too long.

Un saludo

A small number of fundamentalists, orthodoxes, radicals and terrorists throughout history have work endlessly to achieve what you present as evidence. Yet, when it comes to the source of the problem you avoid it altogether.

By avoiding to mention who are the instigators you clearly show your bias.

Please stop pretending you are a liberal peace loving man while avoiding talk to us about Zionism. In case that you want some moral clarity please read this link http://www.israelshamir.net/Spanish/Spanish.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,631357,00.html

I am sorry but even those who are truly American do not tend to be well off. This to me means that lack of choice may have as much to play in this equation as patriotism if not more.

The majority of people that go to war do so to serve their country, protect their loved ones, make their family proud, or because it is the only action that makes sense in a frustrating situation. As an example, does the female suicide bomber become a martyr because she believes she will receive virgins in heaven? No, most likely she commits the vile act because she is lead to believe it the only way for her to fight. When people are in difficult situations, they tend to make decisions that may not make sense to me or you.

On the American side, the majority enlist mainly to serve their country. This sounds Spartan, but it is the predominant reason you would hear if you asked American soldiers.

I’m not sure if you believe the post, or you just thought it sounded interesting. I understand you are frustrated; nonetheless, I disagree about your conclusion.

Matin