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	<title>Comments on: Old Media Reputation vs New Media Reputations</title>
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		<title>By: Jen Allerson</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/old-media-reputation-vs-new-media-reputations.html#comment-132853</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Allerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to hear Jeffrey Cole, of the Center for the digital Future in Los Angeles, speak during the Stockholm Media Week forum on May 8th. He had fascinating things to say about old and new media. 

I could not find a link to his talk in Stockholm in English, but I would highly recommend reading his opinions elsewhere. 

Here are a few of my notes from his session:

-1998 was the first year that kids watched less TV since the invention of television (they are now playing video games and doing other computer related activiteis)

-Traditional newspapers have 20 to 30 years left. Old readers are not being replaced with new readers after they die.

-People are starting to give up on blogging more quickly

-Peer communities scrutinize advertising more

-Video game releases (like Grand Theft Auto 4) are earning for more money in their first week than movies are

-Half of the earth&#039;s population now has a mobile phone

-TVs are moving to the mobile phone, getting smaller, moving into pockets, but TVs at home are getting larger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to hear Jeffrey Cole, of the Center for the digital Future in Los Angeles, speak during the Stockholm Media Week forum on May 8th. He had fascinating things to say about old and new media. </p>
<p>I could not find a link to his talk in Stockholm in English, but I would highly recommend reading his opinions elsewhere. </p>
<p>Here are a few of my notes from his session:</p>
<p>-1998 was the first year that kids watched less TV since the invention of television (they are now playing video games and doing other computer related activiteis)</p>
<p>-Traditional newspapers have 20 to 30 years left. Old readers are not being replaced with new readers after they die.</p>
<p>-People are starting to give up on blogging more quickly</p>
<p>-Peer communities scrutinize advertising more</p>
<p>-Video game releases (like Grand Theft Auto 4) are earning for more money in their first week than movies are</p>
<p>-Half of the earth&#8217;s population now has a mobile phone</p>
<p>-TVs are moving to the mobile phone, getting smaller, moving into pockets, but TVs at home are getting larger</p>
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		<title>By: Antoin O Lachtnain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antoin O Lachtnain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 12:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NYT is mainstream. Techcrunch is not mainstream. BoingBoing is not mainstream. Digg is not mainstream. These are part of the &#039;long tail&#039;. The criteria for selecting content for mainstream publication is completely different from &#039;long tail&#039; media. It&#039;s a completely different business. Blogs are like fireside chat compared to the mainstream. 

As it happens, long-tail media are currently all online and mainstream media are all partially or wholly on TV or in print. Eventually there will be more of a crossover, but we&#039;re not there yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NYT is mainstream. Techcrunch is not mainstream. BoingBoing is not mainstream. Digg is not mainstream. These are part of the &#8216;long tail&#8217;. The criteria for selecting content for mainstream publication is completely different from &#8216;long tail&#8217; media. It&#8217;s a completely different business. Blogs are like fireside chat compared to the mainstream. </p>
<p>As it happens, long-tail media are currently all online and mainstream media are all partially or wholly on TV or in print. Eventually there will be more of a crossover, but we&#8217;re not there yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Perell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 11:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO:

To much interesting things happening on the web at the same time, dude!

I use to speedread what I read on screen. Thus I miss a lot of words and I forget quickly.

However, I take more time to read newspapers (having some cup of coffee nearby). 
I feel more comfortable reading biglettered documents in a table (horizontal plane), rather than on screen (I may not be digitally confident enough, despite I&#039;m 34 years old). I often print some e-text in order to increase the retention of important information while reading.

Newspapers are truster than e-media because we handle the information in beetween our fingers touching the pages. We are able to keep them some where away from electricity.

Greetings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO:</p>
<p>To much interesting things happening on the web at the same time, dude!</p>
<p>I use to speedread what I read on screen. Thus I miss a lot of words and I forget quickly.</p>
<p>However, I take more time to read newspapers (having some cup of coffee nearby).<br />
I feel more comfortable reading biglettered documents in a table (horizontal plane), rather than on screen (I may not be digitally confident enough, despite I&#8217;m 34 years old). I often print some e-text in order to increase the retention of important information while reading.</p>
<p>Newspapers are truster than e-media because we handle the information in beetween our fingers touching the pages. We are able to keep them some where away from electricity.</p>
<p>Greetings.</p>
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		<title>By: cvander</title>
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		<dc:creator>cvander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 15:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right about this.  But also, remember that when comparing new vs old media, the mainstream have a concept that getting published online is easy, is simple, you can do it yourself.  While being published in one of the big boys of the old media means that you did something great, you were chosen and that&#039;s why they admire the mention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right about this.  But also, remember that when comparing new vs old media, the mainstream have a concept that getting published online is easy, is simple, you can do it yourself.  While being published in one of the big boys of the old media means that you did something great, you were chosen and that&#8217;s why they admire the mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Waxman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Waxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 15:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting POV.  I read the NY Times article and was taken by your offering. It&#039;s one of the more original business concepts I&#039;ve heard about in a while.

Like many Canadians, I subscribe to the Times Sunday edition not for the news, but to discover the stories/trends behind the news; and because I enjoy the high quality writing and the depth.

However, as a PR professional, I am intrigued by the fact that online mentions bring you more website traffic than traditional MSM. Certainly journalists are looking to the blogosphere for news/ideas. But there&#039;s much truth in your assertion that print (or TV) coverage is remembered for a longer period of time.  Perhaps that&#039;s because of the more ethereal nature of the blogosphere - posted today, gone tomorrow. With MSM, I think we&#039;re conditioned to consider what&#039;s being said, reflect more.  Perhaps that&#039;s why it stays with us.

That said, I&#039;m here because of the Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting POV.  I read the NY Times article and was taken by your offering. It&#8217;s one of the more original business concepts I&#8217;ve heard about in a while.</p>
<p>Like many Canadians, I subscribe to the Times Sunday edition not for the news, but to discover the stories/trends behind the news; and because I enjoy the high quality writing and the depth.</p>
<p>However, as a PR professional, I am intrigued by the fact that online mentions bring you more website traffic than traditional MSM. Certainly journalists are looking to the blogosphere for news/ideas. But there&#8217;s much truth in your assertion that print (or TV) coverage is remembered for a longer period of time.  Perhaps that&#8217;s because of the more ethereal nature of the blogosphere &#8211; posted today, gone tomorrow. With MSM, I think we&#8217;re conditioned to consider what&#8217;s being said, reflect more.  Perhaps that&#8217;s why it stays with us.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m here because of the Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Julio Alonso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julio Alonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. Now, will this still be the same when our kids think about media? Is this a permanent effect or will it go away in 10-20 years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Now, will this still be the same when our kids think about media? Is this a permanent effect or will it go away in 10-20 years?</p>
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		<title>By: Old Media&#8217;s Effect on Reputation and Action - Thomas Crampton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Media&#8217;s Effect on Reputation and Action - Thomas Crampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 11:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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