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		<title>By: ilan a.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilan a.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Martin,
I am back on this topic (late I know...), since I just picked up a very interesting quote from Sergey Brin, while in Israel last week : • When you&#039;re a Jew, you have a background of hardship, suffering, difficulties--and to turn that into success is part of the Jewish experience.
If you want to read the rest of the interview, it&#039;s here : http://www.news.com/8301-10787_3-9946895-60.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Martin,<br />
I am back on this topic (late I know&#8230;), since I just picked up a very interesting quote from Sergey Brin, while in Israel last week : • When you&#8217;re a Jew, you have a background of hardship, suffering, difficulties&#8211;and to turn that into success is part of the Jewish experience.<br />
If you want to read the rest of the interview, it&#8217;s here : <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10787_3-9946895-60.html?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-5" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com/8301-10787_3-9946895-60.html?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-5</a></p>
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		<title>By: PEACEFUL01</title>
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		<dc:creator>PEACEFUL01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi there,

Well I know I was way late but this is an interesting topic and somewhat controversy.  Why are Jews tend to be more successul in modern western society?  Hard work, Education and Unity.  Well all these have been discuss and disect in details by commments from previous posts.  My opinion is this thousand years of persecution and discriminate everywhere have make the Jews who they are today.  I don&#039;t blame them either.  Jews will NEVER allow another Holocust to happen to them.  Nor will they depend on others to save them.  Where are the people in the world when Jews are being gas in German during wwII.  Don&#039;t tell me that the world have no idea what is going on in German at the time.  They do but they just don&#039;t care because Jews have nothing to offer them.  So why waste their time and effort to save the Jews.  Jews leaders are constantly remind others and themself about the Holocust? why is that?  some think it is to cause sympathy for the Jews.  May be but the real reason(my opinion) is to remind Jews of today not to forget of what still may happen to them.  Funny thing is what happen to Jews throughout history is exactly what happen to the Palestinian in Palestine today.  Guess who occupied Palestine.  The Jews.  You tell me the world don&#039;t know what happen there.  They do but they don&#039;t care.  Why after all  it is only the Palestinian.  What does the Paltestinian have to offer?  Nothing and that is why it is almost a none issue in the Western society.  Politicians have nothing to gain for raising this issue and everything to lose if they merely mention it as &quot;Israeli&#039;s occupied Palestine&quot; land.  Jews loby specifically the AIPAC will destroy them.  This is why war will never end.  The reason is human are selfist.  we&#039;re looking after ourself only.  Who knows 200 years from now the Palestinian are an influent group just like the Jews are now.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprise there is an AntiPalestino Laws and a Holocow is name to remind mankind of what happen to the Palestinian during the occupied years.  Crazy thought but who knows.
p.s please forgive my grammar and typos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi there,</p>
<p>Well I know I was way late but this is an interesting topic and somewhat controversy.  Why are Jews tend to be more successul in modern western society?  Hard work, Education and Unity.  Well all these have been discuss and disect in details by commments from previous posts.  My opinion is this thousand years of persecution and discriminate everywhere have make the Jews who they are today.  I don&#8217;t blame them either.  Jews will NEVER allow another Holocust to happen to them.  Nor will they depend on others to save them.  Where are the people in the world when Jews are being gas in German during wwII.  Don&#8217;t tell me that the world have no idea what is going on in German at the time.  They do but they just don&#8217;t care because Jews have nothing to offer them.  So why waste their time and effort to save the Jews.  Jews leaders are constantly remind others and themself about the Holocust? why is that?  some think it is to cause sympathy for the Jews.  May be but the real reason(my opinion) is to remind Jews of today not to forget of what still may happen to them.  Funny thing is what happen to Jews throughout history is exactly what happen to the Palestinian in Palestine today.  Guess who occupied Palestine.  The Jews.  You tell me the world don&#8217;t know what happen there.  They do but they don&#8217;t care.  Why after all  it is only the Palestinian.  What does the Paltestinian have to offer?  Nothing and that is why it is almost a none issue in the Western society.  Politicians have nothing to gain for raising this issue and everything to lose if they merely mention it as &#8220;Israeli&#8217;s occupied Palestine&#8221; land.  Jews loby specifically the AIPAC will destroy them.  This is why war will never end.  The reason is human are selfist.  we&#8217;re looking after ourself only.  Who knows 200 years from now the Palestinian are an influent group just like the Jews are now.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprise there is an AntiPalestino Laws and a Holocow is name to remind mankind of what happen to the Palestinian during the occupied years.  Crazy thought but who knows.<br />
p.s please forgive my grammar and typos.</p>
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		<title>By: Ezequiel Brodsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ezequiel Brodsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Statistics and probability provide the first part of the answer to your question. Jews don&#039;t just succeed at everything and everywhere but they do it mostly in places and fields where they concentrate more heavily. There is 1 Jewish person for every 457 people in the world, but there is 1 Jew for every 11.6 in the NYC area (1.9m in 22m). Similarly, Jews are easier to find in &#039;classic&#039; careers (e.g.: medicine, law, architecture, economics), arts, and certain fields of business (e.g.: high-tech, diamonds, movies). Jews are more rare to stand out in, say, Italy and Japan, or in elite sports and military (not including Israel, of course). 

The next part I believe has to do with being part of a minority, and in many ways, a very special one. When you&#039;re part of a minority, your individual value is higher (especially if you live in the Diaspora); in a way, you&#039;re representing your group and there&#039;s a sense of responsibility and duty towards it. This has nothing to do with secret handshakes or unconditional cooperation between Jews, as you very well said. It is a more abstract and individual feeling that operates in a similar way than when you prefer to marry someone Jewish, have Jewish children, and keep the &#039;line going&#039;. I think many (not necessarily the majority, but certainly a significant %) Jews feel this way, and this influences their decisions (where to live, what to study), as well as their performance. It&#039;s a big burden to carry, but pressure does make diamonds :)

The third and final part of the answer lies, I believe, in well-known Jewish stereotypes that are home- and family-centric: strong family values (especially in Sephardi Jews); embrace for education and wisdom (especially in Ashkenazim Jews); etc. As with all stereotypes, their not universal or perfectly accurate but there&#039;s some truth underneath.

So, next time someone asks you: &quot;Why do Jews stand out so much being so few?&quot;, just answer: &quot;I&#039;ll tell you if you can name 5 -just 5- sports stars that are Jewish; from any sport and any country&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statistics and probability provide the first part of the answer to your question. Jews don&#8217;t just succeed at everything and everywhere but they do it mostly in places and fields where they concentrate more heavily. There is 1 Jewish person for every 457 people in the world, but there is 1 Jew for every 11.6 in the NYC area (1.9m in 22m). Similarly, Jews are easier to find in &#8216;classic&#8217; careers (e.g.: medicine, law, architecture, economics), arts, and certain fields of business (e.g.: high-tech, diamonds, movies). Jews are more rare to stand out in, say, Italy and Japan, or in elite sports and military (not including Israel, of course). </p>
<p>The next part I believe has to do with being part of a minority, and in many ways, a very special one. When you&#8217;re part of a minority, your individual value is higher (especially if you live in the Diaspora); in a way, you&#8217;re representing your group and there&#8217;s a sense of responsibility and duty towards it. This has nothing to do with secret handshakes or unconditional cooperation between Jews, as you very well said. It is a more abstract and individual feeling that operates in a similar way than when you prefer to marry someone Jewish, have Jewish children, and keep the &#8216;line going&#8217;. I think many (not necessarily the majority, but certainly a significant %) Jews feel this way, and this influences their decisions (where to live, what to study), as well as their performance. It&#8217;s a big burden to carry, but pressure does make diamonds <img src='http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The third and final part of the answer lies, I believe, in well-known Jewish stereotypes that are home- and family-centric: strong family values (especially in Sephardi Jews); embrace for education and wisdom (especially in Ashkenazim Jews); etc. As with all stereotypes, their not universal or perfectly accurate but there&#8217;s some truth underneath.</p>
<p>So, next time someone asks you: &#8220;Why do Jews stand out so much being so few?&#8221;, just answer: &#8220;I&#8217;ll tell you if you can name 5 -just 5- sports stars that are Jewish; from any sport and any country&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Yani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin,
a lot has been said already as I believe. 
One of the key issues is for sure education - explains why e.g. there are disproportionally more East Asians (Japan, China, Korea) in the Ivy Leagues than other countries. (FYI: I am Korean) 
The there are some other points that were addressed weakly or not at all :
a) measuring &#039;top of the world&#039; - 1. time  
the different measures/stats to show that Jews are above average in many fields are stats of 1-2 centuries (nobel, etc.). how the Jews actually performed well before that time, I have not seen. Cultures like China or the Osman Kingdom have invented countless things and prospered - before 1500. I have no clue whether the Jews were as good by then. 
b) measuring &#039;top of the world&#039; - 2. region 
THe last 500 years, and especially the last 100 years were the years of the western society. They developed and prospered. Although there are many differences, in the big picture western societies have many things in common - similar environment create similar profile of strength and weakness.
Theoretically countries like China, India, African countries etc. of course had the chance to show that they are good too, but given the fact that they were just bloody poor with poor education, they didn&#039;t really have a real chance to excel.
The conclusion is that the Jews showed superior performances during the last 100-200 years in comparison to the western societies and cultures, where diversity has not been as broad as it will be in the next 100 years - diversity, which will create more compeitition. It remains to be seen whether they will retain their position. 
c) identity 
I personally respect Jews in this respect : 
the stronger an identity is , the higher the likelihood that the single individual in a group / society will sacrifice him/herself for the good of the whole. i think this is a very strong point. My conclusion is that if there were 1 billion Jews then your performance would probably be not that great in comparison to now (% wise) 

one Q I have: as far as I know, the performances amongst Jews from different countries differ - German Jews have been doing quite well, while the Eastern European Jews in comparison less ( I was told, not sure wehther it is really true). If so, how would you explain thiat ?

excuse my tyops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,<br />
a lot has been said already as I believe.<br />
One of the key issues is for sure education &#8211; explains why e.g. there are disproportionally more East Asians (Japan, China, Korea) in the Ivy Leagues than other countries. (FYI: I am Korean)<br />
The there are some other points that were addressed weakly or not at all :<br />
a) measuring &#8216;top of the world&#8217; &#8211; 1. time<br />
the different measures/stats to show that Jews are above average in many fields are stats of 1-2 centuries (nobel, etc.). how the Jews actually performed well before that time, I have not seen. Cultures like China or the Osman Kingdom have invented countless things and prospered &#8211; before 1500. I have no clue whether the Jews were as good by then.<br />
b) measuring &#8216;top of the world&#8217; &#8211; 2. region<br />
THe last 500 years, and especially the last 100 years were the years of the western society. They developed and prospered. Although there are many differences, in the big picture western societies have many things in common &#8211; similar environment create similar profile of strength and weakness.<br />
Theoretically countries like China, India, African countries etc. of course had the chance to show that they are good too, but given the fact that they were just bloody poor with poor education, they didn&#8217;t really have a real chance to excel.<br />
The conclusion is that the Jews showed superior performances during the last 100-200 years in comparison to the western societies and cultures, where diversity has not been as broad as it will be in the next 100 years &#8211; diversity, which will create more compeitition. It remains to be seen whether they will retain their position.<br />
c) identity<br />
I personally respect Jews in this respect :<br />
the stronger an identity is , the higher the likelihood that the single individual in a group / society will sacrifice him/herself for the good of the whole. i think this is a very strong point. My conclusion is that if there were 1 billion Jews then your performance would probably be not that great in comparison to now (% wise) </p>
<p>one Q I have: as far as I know, the performances amongst Jews from different countries differ &#8211; German Jews have been doing quite well, while the Eastern European Jews in comparison less ( I was told, not sure wehther it is really true). If so, how would you explain thiat ?</p>
<p>excuse my tyops.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanunu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanunu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin:
OK. I am glad that I asked so that there is not doubt about the &quot;secret handshake&quot;. As  far as I am concern you may have as  well a hidden agenda and that&#039;s why you do not agree. 

See, the Zionists overachievers oppose peace in Palestine every time the issue has been raised, for now more that forty years. 

When a courageous first minister in Israel, try to negotiated they resorted to the assassination Yitzhak Rabin. 
Marin, this is a sad day for your readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin:<br />
OK. I am glad that I asked so that there is not doubt about the &#8220;secret handshake&#8221;. As  far as I am concern you may have as  well a hidden agenda and that&#8217;s why you do not agree. </p>
<p>See, the Zionists overachievers oppose peace in Palestine every time the issue has been raised, for now more that forty years. </p>
<p>When a courageous first minister in Israel, try to negotiated they resorted to the assassination Yitzhak Rabin.<br />
Marin, this is a sad day for your readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Varsavsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Varsavsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Ilan, if what you are trying to say is that Jews face a lot of pressure in their education as they grow up and being exposed to a more demanding education helps you in overachieving, I can agree to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Ilan, if what you are trying to say is that Jews face a lot of pressure in their education as they grow up and being exposed to a more demanding education helps you in overachieving, I can agree to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Varsavsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Varsavsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanunu, we don´t agree on this.</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Jewish overachievement thing has often puzzled me too. 

In France, all the telecom entrepreneurs that have met with success are jewish. Louis Dreyfus group (Neuf cegetel telecom), Free (X Niel), Meteor Networks (who bought my company - J Bettan), Magiconline ISP (who almost bought another of my companies).

My conlusion seing in detail how these guys got there is linked to some of the cultural make up of the jewish religion and identity:

1. Making money is OK (for catholics it&#039;s actually bad!)- and so is working like crazy and taking the risk of failure.
2. The defensive community from past persecution has created a global and self preserving club. Membership means help in many small yet useful and encouraging ways is there for those beginners. The accountant is often jewish when starting, the banker or investment is oftne jewish (remember making money is ok so not surprisingly the world&#039;s largest banks are guess what JEWISH!) 
3. At least some of the above Jewish entrepreneurs were bank rolled by other succesful and very wealthy jewish entrepreneurs (question how did Martin get the money to buy his first buildig and make a property winfall all those years ago?  :) when other students were struggling to pay for their college fees).
4. The wheeler dealer quality with a good ability to chat and sell almost anything to your grandmother - but usually not rip people off (not good for long term business or your reputation). Another saying being &quot;it&#039;s just business...&quot;
5. Family member examples which are so good in generating confidence and advice at the early stage leading to success.
6. Money is power or is it cash is king...


The big question is now why is money so important to these jewish entrepreneurs: look at Maslow hierarchy of motivation -&gt; public recognition. 

The motivation or incentive?: Let&#039;s be honest: The large historical and often reminded threats to the survival of the clan over the centuries might just create a equal and oposite reaction through the collective subconcious (passed on from elders and religious leaders) of the jews thus creating energy to make a mark in the smarter or ambitious and savvy individuals that have the hunger and determination to deliver and to show who is strongest in the jungle. I admit this is Darwinistic psychology but people are made up of a lot of stuff including the family history for generations back.


This is actually not a bad thing. Ironically, it will create another equal and oposit force: envy and jealousy from less successful (or hardly succesful in money terms), less educated people, then history and prejudice repeats itself in waves evolving up or down with the rest of humanity.

So a few Jewish people&#039;s success fuel the anti jew feelings just like rich people (many religions included) often fuel anti rich sentiment from the lower wealth categories. The attitude of UK Richard Branson shows the right way to gain public sympathy despite being very wealthy.

You cant change the jewish, but what could happen is that Catholics, atheists (Many europeans) and others should like making money more, challenging the way things are, and taking risk or investing in young entrepreneurs rather than sticking their savings into their property, government bond funds - or just enjoy their other pleasures in life by achieving success recognised in other forms than cash on your bank account. 

PS. Let&#039;s not forget the massacre of the protestants by catholics in Paris in 1572 on St Barthelemy day and other wars of religion since leaders wanted a way to control the masses to drive them againts other clans. Nor the near extermination of Indians by early americans, of most aborigines by English settlers,of the untouchables by higher casts in India, and so on... The jews dont have the monopoly on persecution too which is perhaps misunderstood and over publicised at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Jewish overachievement thing has often puzzled me too. </p>
<p>In France, all the telecom entrepreneurs that have met with success are jewish. Louis Dreyfus group (Neuf cegetel telecom), Free (X Niel), Meteor Networks (who bought my company &#8211; J Bettan), Magiconline ISP (who almost bought another of my companies).</p>
<p>My conlusion seing in detail how these guys got there is linked to some of the cultural make up of the jewish religion and identity:</p>
<p>1. Making money is OK (for catholics it&#8217;s actually bad!)- and so is working like crazy and taking the risk of failure.<br />
2. The defensive community from past persecution has created a global and self preserving club. Membership means help in many small yet useful and encouraging ways is there for those beginners. The accountant is often jewish when starting, the banker or investment is oftne jewish (remember making money is ok so not surprisingly the world&#8217;s largest banks are guess what JEWISH!)<br />
3. At least some of the above Jewish entrepreneurs were bank rolled by other succesful and very wealthy jewish entrepreneurs (question how did Martin get the money to buy his first buildig and make a property winfall all those years ago?  <img src='http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  when other students were struggling to pay for their college fees).<br />
4. The wheeler dealer quality with a good ability to chat and sell almost anything to your grandmother &#8211; but usually not rip people off (not good for long term business or your reputation). Another saying being &#8220;it&#8217;s just business&#8230;&#8221;<br />
5. Family member examples which are so good in generating confidence and advice at the early stage leading to success.<br />
6. Money is power or is it cash is king&#8230;</p>
<p>The big question is now why is money so important to these jewish entrepreneurs: look at Maslow hierarchy of motivation -&gt; public recognition. </p>
<p>The motivation or incentive?: Let&#8217;s be honest: The large historical and often reminded threats to the survival of the clan over the centuries might just create a equal and oposite reaction through the collective subconcious (passed on from elders and religious leaders) of the jews thus creating energy to make a mark in the smarter or ambitious and savvy individuals that have the hunger and determination to deliver and to show who is strongest in the jungle. I admit this is Darwinistic psychology but people are made up of a lot of stuff including the family history for generations back.</p>
<p>This is actually not a bad thing. Ironically, it will create another equal and oposit force: envy and jealousy from less successful (or hardly succesful in money terms), less educated people, then history and prejudice repeats itself in waves evolving up or down with the rest of humanity.</p>
<p>So a few Jewish people&#8217;s success fuel the anti jew feelings just like rich people (many religions included) often fuel anti rich sentiment from the lower wealth categories. The attitude of UK Richard Branson shows the right way to gain public sympathy despite being very wealthy.</p>
<p>You cant change the jewish, but what could happen is that Catholics, atheists (Many europeans) and others should like making money more, challenging the way things are, and taking risk or investing in young entrepreneurs rather than sticking their savings into their property, government bond funds &#8211; or just enjoy their other pleasures in life by achieving success recognised in other forms than cash on your bank account. </p>
<p>PS. Let&#8217;s not forget the massacre of the protestants by catholics in Paris in 1572 on St Barthelemy day and other wars of religion since leaders wanted a way to control the masses to drive them againts other clans. Nor the near extermination of Indians by early americans, of most aborigines by English settlers,of the untouchables by higher casts in India, and so on&#8230; The jews dont have the monopoly on persecution too which is perhaps misunderstood and over publicised at times.</p>
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		<title>By: ilan a.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilan a.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Martin, 
I am jewish and observant, so I can give you the Torah&#039;s point of view for &quot;why jewish people are overachievers&quot;.
The Jewish People received the 10 commandments, so we have more &quot;laws&quot; to fulfill than any other people in the world, that is the reason why we were given more strength to fully respect our judaism. This strength, when not used to observe the judaism, is used on other fields : business, studies, research, etc. This is the Torah&#039;s explanation of your question, and I guess it makes sense.
what do you think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Martin,<br />
I am jewish and observant, so I can give you the Torah&#8217;s point of view for &#8220;why jewish people are overachievers&#8221;.<br />
The Jewish People received the 10 commandments, so we have more &#8220;laws&#8221; to fulfill than any other people in the world, that is the reason why we were given more strength to fully respect our judaism. This strength, when not used to observe the judaism, is used on other fields : business, studies, research, etc. This is the Torah&#8217;s explanation of your question, and I guess it makes sense.<br />
what do you think</p>
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		<title>By: Wanunu</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/general/antisemitic-people-and-jewish-overachievers.html#comment-20354</link>
		<dc:creator>Wanunu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin:
I am glad  we agree that Zionism is the worst form of racism. Please just remember Michael Neumann point...

“Antisemitism”, properly and narrowly speaking, doesn’t mean hatred of semites; that is to confuse etymology with definition. It means hatred of Jews. But here, immediately, we come up against the venerable shell-game of Jewish identity: “Look! We’re a religion! No! a race! No! a cultural entity! Sorry–a religion!” When we tire of this game, we get suckered into another: “anti-Zionism is antisemitism! ” quickly alternates with: “Don’t confuse Zionism with Judaism! How dare you, you antisemite!”

Zionism is a fascist enterprise that do not spare non even the Jews. For here we come that Ashkenazi Jews that are very different from let said Sephardic Jews...

I will be happy if you can talk and expand your views about Zionism with the same importance that you give to &quot;Antisemitic people and Jewish Overachievers&quot; Can you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin:<br />
I am glad  we agree that Zionism is the worst form of racism. Please just remember Michael Neumann point&#8230;</p>
<p>“Antisemitism”, properly and narrowly speaking, doesn’t mean hatred of semites; that is to confuse etymology with definition. It means hatred of Jews. But here, immediately, we come up against the venerable shell-game of Jewish identity: “Look! We’re a religion! No! a race! No! a cultural entity! Sorry–a religion!” When we tire of this game, we get suckered into another: “anti-Zionism is antisemitism! ” quickly alternates with: “Don’t confuse Zionism with Judaism! How dare you, you antisemite!”</p>
<p>Zionism is a fascist enterprise that do not spare non even the Jews. For here we come that Ashkenazi Jews that are very different from let said Sephardic Jews&#8230;</p>
<p>I will be happy if you can talk and expand your views about Zionism with the same importance that you give to &#8220;Antisemitic people and Jewish Overachievers&#8221; Can you?</p>
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