your collegue arnold bause distributes lies about my identity (I am not a Freifunk member and not a olsrd programmer). I would ask you to remove all personal details about my identity from his comment. I can give you my name and details if you want, but I dont want to have them published in a blog comment, may they correct or wrong.

Best regards

Olebole

sorry por molestar sabado de tarde! es que estoy en la oficina, revisando todo para la semana que viene, expo, y demas cosas, y me puse hace un rato a ver que podiamos hacer con Fon (y pensar porque no se desarrolla rapido aqui, mas alla de que los alemanes son un poquito bodrio para algunas cosas…), y la verdad que si fuese posible lo que pense, sería lo ideal que andababamos buscando hace tiempo! estamos en tiempo de cooperaciones y partnerships y Fon seria un angel en esto! te deje mas detalles de la idea en el email martin@fon.es… espero poder charlar un poco al respecto el martes aqui en Berlin…

saludos!

rami morante

I wish I could take part on your brunch, but unfortunately at the time you can have breakfast I already need to work for my money So my 2 cents here:

I could imagine that one of the reasons (although probably not the top one) is the poor PR work in Germany. An example: in the german wikipedia entry of FON, you find an warning about the neutrality of the entry — not because of the critical germans but because of the corporate editor who tries to remove anything that could be counted as “critical” there (look to the entry history to get details on that).
Another example is the poor quality of the german FON blog in the past and the inability of the founding blogger to take any critics. In the german boards, you will find many discussions about this, some of them going out of scale by the help of this blogger (who sometimes tries to provocate under a pseudonym). These discussions overwrite much of the positive influence that comes from german foneros so that the public reception when looking into the blog, reading the board discussions and looking into the depths of wikipedia is quite poor. To be fair, the blog quality and discussion culture improved much in the last month when Axel and Gordon overtook the blog leadership, but there is still a long way to go.

are you aiming to cover airports and hotels through partnerships? that would increase its value tremendously for biz travellers.

have fun at the web 2.0 conference. I am skipping it this year as we have been hearing the same stuff in the past two years over and over…too many conferences.

btw, sailed along Afrodite this past August in Menorca…I didn’t know it was yours. nice boat.

saludos

keep in mind that it is law in Germany that an ISP Customer is resposible for any unlawfull action entering the Internet via its account. If you don’t encrypt your Wifi with WPA you can be fined for Supporting a criminal Act. So in Germay you will see no open Wifi.
Some Wifi Companys like “Hotsplots” use a OpenVPN Uplink for the Wifi Routers. So the Officals can not locate the ISP Customer. They could only see the Hotsplots IP because every Wifi User is going through the VPN Tunnel into the Net.

It would be nice to meet you in Berlin but why could i only inquire via Facebook? No full clearly considering Internetuser would ever use such a “privacy suboptimal” Plattform.

Best Regards from rainy Germany
Yours Horst

Rami Morante

we keep trying with German ISPs but in Japan we don´t have any ISP deals and we grow very fast!

Maybe Fon does not grow quickly in Germany because people wrongly believe that if somebody did something illegal through their connection Fon could not show the police that the traffic went through the public and not the encrypted network but we can. And in over 2 years we have not had a single problem.