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		<title>By: ScaredyCat</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/foneras-are-open-source.html#comment-52596</link>
		<dc:creator>ScaredyCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://download.fon.com/firmware/fonera/latest/fonera.tar.bz2

but it&#039;ll be useless to you. Fon is opensource in the same way that Tivo is opensource. This is exactly why the gpl v3 came about.Don&#039;t use signed images, or at least give us the means to bypass this requirement. 

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<p>but it&#8217;ll be useless to you. Fon is opensource in the same way that Tivo is opensource. This is exactly why the gpl v3 came about.Don&#8217;t use signed images, or at least give us the means to bypass this requirement. </p>
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		<title>By: Grega</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/foneras-are-open-source.html#comment-27334</link>
		<dc:creator>Grega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

The posts here seem to date back to the year 2006. 
And I am still unable to download any sources at the URL: http://www.fon.com/en/download
I also checked the posts made in November and December 2006 and there were no news
regarding that issue.

As far as I got this, no matter who you notified, this was and still is a GPL violation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>The posts here seem to date back to the year 2006.<br />
And I am still unable to download any sources at the URL: <a href="http://www.fon.com/en/download" rel="nofollow">http://www.fon.com/en/download</a><br />
I also checked the posts made in November and December 2006 and there were no news<br />
regarding that issue.</p>
<p>As far as I got this, no matter who you notified, this was and still is a GPL violation.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudiu Balciza</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/foneras-are-open-source.html#comment-1573</link>
		<dc:creator>Claudiu Balciza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was the WiFi vulnerability patched ?
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/Daily-News/ae2af266-5874-4861-8ad7-128dfaed2261.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/Daily-News/ae2af266-5874-4861-8ad7-128dfaed2261.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was the WiFi vulnerability patched ?<br />
<a href="http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/Daily-News/ae2af266-5874-4861-8ad7-128dfaed2261.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/Daily-News/ae2af266-5874-4861-8ad7-128dfaed2261.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin Varsavsky</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/foneras-are-open-source.html#comment-1572</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Varsavsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olivier,

Don&#039;t become a FONero now.  But pls do become one as soon as we sort this issue which should be in the next 2 weeks.  We will post the news in this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olivier,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t become a FONero now.  But pls do become one as soon as we sort this issue which should be in the next 2 weeks.  We will post the news in this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the kind of things why I hesitate to become a fonero :
You say &quot;We have notified the GPL people [..]&quot;
Very interesting... what about the foneros and the will be foneros ?
You are claiming that FON&#039;s power commes from its community but it looks like there is a strong communication problem between FON and the community.

And, I&#039;m not a lawyer, but I don&#039;t think that &quot;notifying the GPL people&quot; is enough. And even if Atheros have not given it&#039;s OK for it&#039;s code (a WiFi driver I suppose), you can show the rest of the code (I immagine it&#039;s a modified/optimised OpenWRT).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the kind of things why I hesitate to become a fonero :<br />
You say &#8220;We have notified the GPL people [..]&#8221;<br />
Very interesting&#8230; what about the foneros and the will be foneros ?<br />
You are claiming that FON&#8217;s power commes from its community but it looks like there is a strong communication problem between FON and the community.</p>
<p>And, I&#8217;m not a lawyer, but I don&#8217;t think that &#8220;notifying the GPL people&#8221; is enough. And even if Atheros have not given it&#8217;s OK for it&#8217;s code (a WiFi driver I suppose), you can show the rest of the code (I immagine it&#8217;s a modified/optimised OpenWRT).</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Varsavsky</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/foneras-are-open-source.html#comment-1570</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Varsavsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 

No, it does not mean that. We have notified the GPL people and told them that we have the delay and they said its ok. They accept our explanation and that we will release the code in November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 </p>
<p>No, it does not mean that. We have notified the GPL people and told them that we have the delay and they said its ok. They accept our explanation and that we will release the code in November.</p>
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		<title>By: freechelmi</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/foneras-are-open-source.html#comment-1569</link>
		<dc:creator>freechelmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why having lock the SSH and firwmare update ? afraid that people go for a free-for-all solution with la fonera ? 

I can&#039;t see how you want to be &quot;open&quot; and ship such blackBox ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why having lock the SSH and firwmare update ? afraid that people go for a free-for-all solution with la fonera ? </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see how you want to be &#8220;open&#8221; and ship such blackBox &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/foneras-are-open-source.html#comment-1568</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this mean you are currently distributing your firmware in violation of the original OpenWrt (and other) GPLs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean you are currently distributing your firmware in violation of the original OpenWrt (and other) GPLs?</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/foneras-are-open-source.html#comment-1567</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can hope that the certification will be faster than the support...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can hope that the certification will be faster than the support&#8230;</p>
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