Comments on: Are We Too Progressive? http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/are-we-too-progressive.html Blog of an entrepreneur Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:43:22 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Homer Collier http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/are-we-too-progressive.html#comment-164364 Homer Collier Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:06:10 +0000 http://192.168.1.2/en/?p=372#comment-164364 3hzyds88dl0hsux2 3hzyds88dl0hsux2

]]> By: Pelle http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/are-we-too-progressive.html#comment-1003 Pelle Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:56:50 +0000 http://192.168.1.2/en/?p=372#comment-1003 You know, I am at disagreement with you on so many things, but most of them are your solutions to problems and not the goals yourself which as a libertarian focused on Latin America I would probably agree violently with you on. However much I may disagree with you I think it is great to see a company who dares to have a voice and I think that is brilliant. I have kept my political blog separate from my business life, which I may decide to change inspired by what you are doing. I also believe that in many ways when you and I set out to "disrupt" the world with our technology, we are able to do way more with respects to changing the world than your average political activist or candidate. On this point whether we are in agreement or disagreement politically the success of things like FON absolutely helps my goals for the world. You know, I am at disagreement with you on so many things, but most of them are your solutions to problems and not the goals yourself which as a libertarian focused on Latin America I would probably agree violently with you on.

However much I may disagree with you I think it is great to see a company who dares to have a voice and I think that is brilliant. I have kept my political blog separate from my business life, which I may decide to change inspired by what you are doing.

I also believe that in many ways when you and I set out to “disrupt” the world with our technology, we are able to do way more with respects to changing the world than your average political activist or candidate. On this point whether we are in agreement or disagreement politically the success of things like FON absolutely helps my goals for the world.

]]> By: Martín Varsavsky http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/are-we-too-progressive.html#comment-1002 Martín Varsavsky Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:22:25 +0000 http://192.168.1.2/en/?p=372#comment-1002 Thanks Tilman. Could you send us a few ideas of what you have in mind? Regards, Thanks Tilman.

Could you send us a few ideas of what you have in mind?

Regards,

]]> By: Tilman http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/are-we-too-progressive.html#comment-1001 Tilman Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:35:42 +0000 http://192.168.1.2/en/?p=372#comment-1001 Just a few cents: - the blog PR currently is very enthusiastic and trying to generate/ride a hype - this is going on my nerves when the substantial advances are lagging behind. Look at the not to great vibrations on the boards! - I like changes for the good, but the so-called FON "revolution" coquettes with Guerilla type revolutions - the logos look violent, e.g. I donot like at all how the "yellow FON danger" is dripping off of our planet like blood in the latest animated vertical logo bar. - your FON revolution should stress the constructive power that it has, and get away from the destructive power used in the PR material (rioting masses, blood stains, worn out letters, toilets, ...) - maybe better think of hippie-style world-peace paradigms? ok... they weren't especially constructive either... ;-) Cheers! Just a few cents:

- the blog PR currently is very enthusiastic and trying to generate/ride a hype – this is going on my nerves when the substantial advances are lagging behind. Look at the not to great vibrations on the boards!

- I like changes for the good, but the so-called FON “revolution” coquettes with Guerilla type revolutions – the logos look violent, e.g. I donot like at all how the “yellow FON danger” is dripping off of our planet like blood in the latest animated vertical logo bar.

- your FON revolution should stress the constructive power that it has, and get away from the destructive power used in the PR material (rioting masses, blood stains, worn out letters, toilets, …)

- maybe better think of hippie-style world-peace paradigms? ok… they weren’t especially constructive either… ;-)

Cheers!

]]> By: Martín Varsavsky http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/are-we-too-progressive.html#comment-1000 Martín Varsavsky Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:27:30 +0000 http://192.168.1.2/en/?p=372#comment-1000 Karl, FON believes in both, there is not one or the other. Because of its provision of services to the public, FON needs to comply with Data Protection Law obligations and, at the same time, with the obligations that derive from any legislation that has as an objective to fight terrorism (e.g. European Directive). As an example, we comply with Spanish Data Protection Law that is one of the strictest in Europe. At the same time, FON has to comply with lawful interception requirements in order to help fighting terrorism and illegal activities and co-operate with the police and the authorities to catch the villains. However, we are and we will never share this information with outsiders, but only with Police and the relevant Authorities upon Court Orders. Regards, Karl,

FON believes in both, there is not one or the other.

Because of its provision of services to the public, FON needs to comply with Data Protection Law obligations and, at the same time, with the obligations that derive from any legislation that has as an objective to fight terrorism (e.g. European Directive). As an example, we comply with Spanish Data Protection Law that is one of the strictest in Europe.

At the same time, FON has to comply with lawful interception requirements in order to help fighting terrorism and illegal activities and co-operate with the police and the authorities to catch the villains. However, we are and we will never share this information with outsiders, but only with Police and the relevant Authorities upon Court Orders.

Regards,

]]> By: till http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/are-we-too-progressive.html#comment-999 till Sat, 01 Jul 2006 21:18:49 +0000 http://192.168.1.2/en/?p=372#comment-999 Are you guys too progressive? Hell no! I am so glad you are doing what you do, and I am glad people become members and use your service. Are you guys too progressive? Hell no!

I am so glad you are doing what you do, and I am glad people become members and use your service.

]]> By: Robert Khan http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/are-we-too-progressive.html#comment-998 Robert Khan Sat, 01 Jul 2006 13:37:56 +0000 http://192.168.1.2/en/?p=372#comment-998 Martin, Thanks for setting a good example. I think for many people however, when starting out, they fear politics can squash their humble beginings. It's good to see and be great to see more at the top being overtly politcal for what they believe in - especially when its progressive. The far right forces, they have been vocal for what....how many thousands of years? Cheers, Robert Martin,
Thanks for setting a good example. I think for many people however, when starting out, they fear politics can squash their humble beginings.

It’s good to see and be great to see more at the top being overtly politcal for what they believe in – especially when its progressive.

The far right forces, they have been vocal for what….how many thousands of years?

Cheers,
Robert

]]> By: Karl-Friedrich Lenz http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/are-we-too-progressive.html#comment-997 Karl-Friedrich Lenz Sat, 01 Jul 2006 12:46:29 +0000 http://192.168.1.2/en/?p=372#comment-997 Do you believe in the right of your users to data protection or do you agree with the recent European Directive on storing communication traffic data? And what plans do you have to deal with the Directive? Do you believe in the right of your users to data protection or do you agree with the recent European Directive on storing communication traffic data?

And what plans do you have to deal with the Directive?

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