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	<title>Comments on: After the Fon Social Router comes the Fon Downloader</title>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/after-the-fon-social-router-comes-the-fon-downloader.html#comment-118759</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting read.  I don&#039;t think it will catch on unless they can simplify the process a little more.  On another note, you can already use your Fon to download (.torrents at least).  

http://www.fonerahacks.com   has guides for flashing your Fonera to an alternate Linux firmware.  You can then install packages like ctorrent and begin downloading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting read.  I don&#8217;t think it will catch on unless they can simplify the process a little more.  On another note, you can already use your Fon to download (.torrents at least).  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fonerahacks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fonerahacks.com</a>   has guides for flashing your Fonera to an alternate Linux firmware.  You can then install packages like ctorrent and begin downloading!</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/after-the-fon-social-router-comes-the-fon-downloader.html#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, i know a component for addig usb on the fonera Maxim MAX3421...and for example &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ghielectronics.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ghielectronics.com/&lt;/a&gt; offers a stack for using it !!!
I would also be great to offer gpio access, as meraki mini does...
thanks
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, i know a component for addig usb on the fonera Maxim MAX3421&#8230;and for example <a href="http://www.ghielectronics.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ghielectronics.com/</a> offers a stack for using it !!!<br />
I would also be great to offer gpio access, as meraki mini does&#8230;<br />
thanks</p>
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		<title>By: eriksson</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/after-the-fon-social-router-comes-the-fon-downloader.html#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>eriksson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you dont need to download Lost

you can see it frome

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.go.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.abc.go.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you dont need to download Lost</p>
<p>you can see it frome</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.go.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.go.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Francesco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fon Downloader is a very great idea it would be great with 128mb of ram and a minidistro running from a MMC! MMCs are now very cheap so they offer plenty of space for a very small price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fon Downloader is a very great idea it would be great with 128mb of ram and a minidistro running from a MMC! MMCs are now very cheap so they offer plenty of space for a very small price.</p>
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		<title>By: Martín Varsavsky</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/after-the-fon-social-router-comes-the-fon-downloader.html#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>Martín Varsavsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can download our software from the fon web site.  It´s open source. 

And Jim Wei, we are not going to add a hard drive to our box, just a USB port so people can put their own hard drives.  

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can download our software from the fon web site.  It´s open source. </p>
<p>And Jim Wei, we are not going to add a hard drive to our box, just a USB port so people can put their own hard drives.  </p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: jim wei huang</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/after-the-fon-social-router-comes-the-fon-downloader.html#comment-894</link>
		<dc:creator>jim wei huang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asus WL-700G already support BT function with IDE HDD. It&#039;s might be a good news to develop BT fucntion.

I think that the most important problem is account menegement.If we want to develop a world wide WIFI service. How to menagement. 

If we biuld to much application in the router. I think the hardware cost will be inceased.

And i suggest that realse the linux code let more people to develop more and more feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asus WL-700G already support BT function with IDE HDD. It&#8217;s might be a good news to develop BT fucntion.</p>
<p>I think that the most important problem is account menegement.If we want to develop a world wide WIFI service. How to menagement. </p>
<p>If we biuld to much application in the router. I think the hardware cost will be inceased.</p>
<p>And i suggest that realse the linux code let more people to develop more and more feature.</p>
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		<title>By: Martín Varsavsky</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/after-the-fon-social-router-comes-the-fon-downloader.html#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator>Martín Varsavsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libo, you are right about the link, sorry.  Will take it out.

As far as I know, Bit Torrent and Azureus are both legal California based companies who are making deals with a lot of content companies.  I am in touch with both CEOs.  And we will try to make it work with iTunes as well.  But overall I think that a Fon Downloader/uploader is very useful for user generated content.  Think of videos to be sent to Google Video or Youtube, or very large files that you would send through www.pando.com.  What I find very frustrating is to be in the middle of these things and have to take my laptop.  I would rather have a web based system and manage these process from my laptop when I am not at home or even when I am at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libo, you are right about the link, sorry.  Will take it out.</p>
<p>As far as I know, Bit Torrent and Azureus are both legal California based companies who are making deals with a lot of content companies.  I am in touch with both CEOs.  And we will try to make it work with iTunes as well.  But overall I think that a Fon Downloader/uploader is very useful for user generated content.  Think of videos to be sent to Google Video or Youtube, or very large files that you would send through <a href="http://www.pando.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pando.com</a>.  What I find very frustrating is to be in the middle of these things and have to take my laptop.  I would rather have a web based system and manage these process from my laptop when I am not at home or even when I am at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Martín Varsavsky</title>
		<link>http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/after-the-fon-social-router-comes-the-fon-downloader.html#comment-892</link>
		<dc:creator>Martín Varsavsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Indeed, that´s part of the plan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Indeed, that´s part of the plan!</p>
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		<title>By: David Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that being able to run a Skype-enabled wireless phone such as this one &lt;a href=&quot;http://dualphone.net/Default.aspx?ID=474&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dualphone.net/Default.aspx?ID=474&lt;/a&gt; directly from your Fon router without having to turn on, or be tied to, your PC would be a great idea. 

Some people might even install a Fon router in their parents or grandparents home (even if they don&#039;t have or know how to use a PC) so that they can make cheap or free phone calls. Especially if they thought that they could cover the cost of the broadband connection by operating it as a Bill hotspot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that being able to run a Skype-enabled wireless phone such as this one <a href="http://dualphone.net/Default.aspx?ID=474" rel="nofollow">http://dualphone.net/Default.aspx?ID=474</a> directly from your Fon router without having to turn on, or be tied to, your PC would be a great idea. </p>
<p>Some people might even install a Fon router in their parents or grandparents home (even if they don&#8217;t have or know how to use a PC) so that they can make cheap or free phone calls. Especially if they thought that they could cover the cost of the broadband connection by operating it as a Bill hotspot.</p>
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		<title>By: Libo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmm it&#039;s not gona work with copyrighted material. The big issue is about DRM (Digital RIght Management)

You say &quot;iTunes with some creativity&quot; and you link a website that explain how to install Linux on an iPod, nothining to do with installing iTunes client on linux. Basically I don&#039;t understand how Fon Downloader can help you with the &quot;downloading Lost&quot; procedure. It&#039;s not possible, unless Steve is going to give you access to their proprietary iTunes DRM sytem. On the other hand Fon Downloader can work seamless with Bittorrent, so you can download Lost with no problems at all (no problem beside the copyright). 
So are you sure you want this ? I mean: it&#039;s a nice idea to use the &quot;downloader&quot; concept as a drive to increase the penetration of Fon in the market, but there is a pricey tradeoff; are you sure you want The Majors, RIAA and Hollywood movies indutries hunting FON ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmm it&#8217;s not gona work with copyrighted material. The big issue is about DRM (Digital RIght Management)</p>
<p>You say &#8220;iTunes with some creativity&#8221; and you link a website that explain how to install Linux on an iPod, nothining to do with installing iTunes client on linux. Basically I don&#8217;t understand how Fon Downloader can help you with the &#8220;downloading Lost&#8221; procedure. It&#8217;s not possible, unless Steve is going to give you access to their proprietary iTunes DRM sytem. On the other hand Fon Downloader can work seamless with Bittorrent, so you can download Lost with no problems at all (no problem beside the copyright).<br />
So are you sure you want this ? I mean: it&#8217;s a nice idea to use the &#8220;downloader&#8221; concept as a drive to increase the penetration of Fon in the market, but there is a pricey tradeoff; are you sure you want The Majors, RIAA and Hollywood movies indutries hunting FON ?</p>
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